Grace to You John MacArthur – caught lying to cover for his good long-time friend Billy Graham

Shocking words of John MacArthur. Mason John MacArthur lying to cover his friend and colleague, Billy Graham – the lying one world religion leader and agent/team-mate of Rome’s Vatican since the late 1940s.

First, here is what Mr. MacArthur said, then what Billy Graham actually said that Mr. MacArthur is excusing.

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“… BRIAN: My name is Brian, and my question is: In light of some of the statements that people like Billy Graham and others have made publicly, at what point do you go from saying this person made a heretical statement to saying...just writing the person off as a heretic?

“JOHN: Well, talking about labels, you know, Brian, it's hard. I mean, heresy is a...a person can be a true Christian and buy into something that we can call heresy, because that's simply a word that speaks to something that is an error, the severity of which, varies form error to error. I mean, you can be wrong about some things that doesn't affect the Gospel.

“In the case of Billy Graham, Billy Graham believes the Gospel. He believes the Gospel. That is true. He knows the true Gospel, believes the true Gospel, preaches the true Gospel. And so, because he believes the true Gospel, he therefore, is a believer. But, he goes beyond that to say that somebody can be saved that didn't believe the true Gospel. That's wrong. That doesn't eliminate him from the redeemed because he believes the true Gospel. You know what I'm saying? We're drawing a fine line here. But, it's such a dangerous thing to say that. It's not something new, something he said back in 1978 in "McCall's" magazine and even before that. I don't know what sentimentality causes people to say things like that.

But, I've never found myself in a position where I needed to go around labeling everybody. You know, heretic, non-heretic, whatever. I just try to deal with the truth, try to give somebody the benefit of the doubt. There are a lot of people in that category. There are lots of people through the years that we've discussed and talked about and read their writings and we would say, well this person believes the Gospel, completely understands the Gospel, affirms the Gospel. But, they don't think everybody has to believe the Gospel to be saved. Billy Graham isn't alone in that. There are a lot of people who take that position. Lot of people. They're wrong about that. Their emotions get carried away, because that's a very, very clear biblical issue. But, while that in itself is heresy, I think to label someone a heretic is pretty, that's a pretty loaded statement. So, I would be hesitate to drop that label on someone, unless they do not preach the true Gospel, do not believe the true Gospel. Then that's when heresy becomes fatal. Okay?

“BRIAN: Thank you.

“JOHN: Good question…”

Source links – Grace To You archive, June 10, 2001:
https://www.gty.org/library/print/sermons-library/70-22

https://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/70-22/bible-questions-and-answers-part-50

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But here is what Billy Graham actually said:

[you can see it in this video too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MZWug3QAvs&t=3s]

“Television Interview of Billy Graham by Robert Schuller, Hour Of Power, Part 1, an approximately 7 minute long Broadcast in Southern California on Saturday, May 31, 1997. The following is an exact transcript of an excerpt close to the end of the Broadcast.

SCHULLER: Tell me, what do you think is the future of Christianity?

GRAHAM: Well, Christianity and being a true believer--you know, I think there's the Body of Christ. This comes from all the Christian groups around the world, outside the Christian groups. I think everybody that loves Christ, or knows Christ, whether they're conscious of it or not, they're members of the Body of Christ. And I don't think that we're going to see a great sweeping revival that will turn the whole world to Christ at any time. I think James answered that, the Apostle James in the first council in Jerusalem, when he said God's purpose for this age is to call out a people for His name. And that's what God is doing today, He's calling people out of the world for His name, whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world, or the Christian world or the non-believing world, they are members of the Body of Christ because they've been called by GOD. They may not even know the name of Jesus but they know in their hearts they need something that they don't have, and they turn to the only light that they have, and I think they are saved, and that they're going to be with us in heaven.

SCHULLER: What, what I hear you saying that it's possible for Jesus Christ to come into human hearts and souls and life, even if they've been born in darkness and have never had exposure to the Bible. Is that a correct interpretation of what you're saying?

GRAHAM: Yes, it is, because I believe that I've met people in various parts of the world in tribal situations, that they have never seen a Bible or heard about a Bible, and never heard of Jesus, but they've believed in their hearts that there was a God, and they've tried to live a life that was quite apart from the surrounding community in which they lived.

SCHULLER: I, I'm so thrilled to hear you say this. There's a wideness in God's mercy.

GRAHAM: There is. There definitely is.

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John 5:23 "That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent Him." John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. 2 John 9-10 "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed."

>> The Television interview of Dr. Billy Graham by Dr. Schuller continued: Part II, which was broadcast on Sunday, June 8, 1997. The following is an accurate transcript of a segment.

SCHULLER: You knew ...Fulton Sheen. You knew these men. Your comments on both of these men [Fulton Sheen and Norman V. Peale].

GRAHAM: The primary way of communication is to live life, let people see that you're living what you proclaim....[comments on his friendship and conversations with Fulton Sheen] I lost a very dear friend, and since that time, the whole relationship between me and my work, and you and your work, and the Roman Catholic Church has changed. They open their arms to welcome us and we have the support of the Catholic Church almost everywhere we go. And I think that we must come to the place where we keep our eyes on Jesus Christ, not on what denomination or what church or what group we belong to."

To obtain the entire interview contact: Crystal Cathedral Ministries, PO Box 100, Garden Grove, CA 92642 telephone 714--971-4000”

Source link: http://seekgod.ca/deceptions.htm

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Conclusion:

MacArthur lies and pretends that Billy Graham has the same gospel as the Bible. Nope – but apparently MacArthur has the same false gospel as Billy Graham.

~ Watching, Preaching, Praying, your growing bro, Steven with the FEDBP and INCPU ministries.