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Kirk Cameron and David Barton, from Kirk’s “Monumental” film

www.incpu.org/KirkCameron-DavidBarton-myths-revisionism-caught.htm

www.incpu.org/KirkCameron-DavidBarton-myths-revisionism-caught.pdf

 

Monumental trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuN86qIqfw0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIqXiF-z6E

 

This article quotes and gives brief notes on key quotes that stood out from this film – whether lies or rewrites of history or contradictions to God’s Word or approvals of masonry & ecumenicism. I have watched this film twice, but I also know the lies that he’s quoting. And I’m also familiar with some of the liars he’s quoting. David Barton, for instance, is despised by many and for good reason – he’s in “the Family”, as in the demonically-driven “C-street gang” that meets at the house called “the Cedars”, or the house on 24th street in Arlington, VA. David Barton is rightly called a “revisionist”, because he likes to rewrite history – to the point of even falsely accusing those who are holding to God’s Word and correcting him. You’ll see that later.

 

Quick note: What Kirk is presenting in this film is the lie and false teaching of “the Family” and their “Kingdom Dominionism” (you’ll want to study it out a little to know it yourself). These “dominionists” love money and yet believe themselves so good (while hiding their corruption), they think they will use Jesus as the excuse to move everything toward the one-world government and think that they will get the “kingdom” ready for Jesus, and He’ll just come in and sit on the throne that they have built and set up through their corrupt anti-Biblical ways, for their selfish means. And the only thing they are setting up is satan’s 666 wicked one-world government, so that after 2nd Thessalonians 2:7 is fulfilled, they will be ready to welcome in the antichrist and start their 7-year treaty with Israel that starts the 7-year Tribulation. You’ll see him keep developing that false ideology through this film. So, let’s look at quotes of his film.

 

The other article on this topic quotes from the whole film. This shorter article focuses on David Barton and his revisionist history.

 

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[minute marker started - 1:01:02]

 “But, those are the forefathers. What about the founding fathers? 150 years later – the George Washingtons, the Thomas Jeffersons, Benjamin Franklin, Madison, John Adams. The people that framed the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. The real beginnings of the United States of America. In that 150 years, did they lose that deep faith of our forefathers? Were they really a bunch of atheists, agnostics, and deists – like modern historians tell us? I needed to find that out. So I went to the leading expert in the country for original source documents during the founding era. David Barton has the largest private collection of Bibles and documents and textbooks from early America. I wanted to see John Hancock’s John Hancock. For myself.

Kirk: “What are these?”

David: “This is a family Bible done in 1798. This Bible was funded by about a dozen signers of the Constitution and signers of the Declaration, as well as by President John Adams and Vice President Thomas Jefferson. They’re the guys who put out the financial backing to do this Bible.”

Kirk: “Funded by signers of the Declaration.”

David: “And Constitution. Yeah.”

Kirk: “And Constitution.”

David: “Yeah, a guy named Bedford – signer of the Constitution. John Dix – signer of the Constitution. Uh, you had so many of the signers who part of this. Alexander Hamilton helped fund this Bible.”

Kirk: “Cause they wanted families to gather around the Bible.”

David: “They wanted the Word to go out to every family.”

Kirk: “Cause they believed that would make for a better country.”

David: “Makes for a better country. Makes for a better faith. And again this is a product of our atheist, agnostic, and deist founding fathers – or at least we’re told that’s who they are today. When you see this stuff [taps on two-volume Bible], you go: wait a minute. These guys… Why would any atheist, agnostic, or deist promote the Word of God, fund the Word of God, and want it distributed to every family and everyone in America? Why would they fund a Bible [picks up another smaller Bible] that you can take and give out to your neighbors, to evangelize them. It doesn’t make sense if they are atheist, agnostics and deists. Now on the other hand, if these guys happened to be Christians, this makes a lot of sense.”

[The scene looks at the matrix monument and the word “evangelist”.]

David: “This is one of the rarest books in the world. This little book right here – really delicate. It was done in 1782. This is the first Bible ever printed in English in America. They printed 10,000 of them. There’s twenty-two left in private hands. This is one of them. So, it’s one of the rarest books in the world. What’s cool. Is this Bible of the Revolution was printed by the Congress of the United States. So, Congress printed the first English language Bible.”

[The scene looks at the matrix monument and a carved book that Mr. Foster said was the “Bible” but has no markings that could be seen.]

David: “They said in Congress that this Bible is quote: ‘a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of our schools.’ End-quote. ”

[The scene looks at the matrix monument and the statue and word “education”.]

David: “So, the founding fathers  and Congress printed the first Bible in English? And they did it for the use of schools? I didn’t think they wanted the Bible in schools. That’s what we hear. That’s what we’ve been told. The Bible was put in schools back in 1647 – first public school law. We kept in schools until 1963, when the court said – yeah, we’ve done it 320 years, let’s do something different. And now we’re told the founding fathers  never wanted the Bible in schools. [taps the little rare Bible again] That one piece of history right there, proves exactly the opposite. Real simple.”

-- Kirk (acts shocked and talks to us): “So hold on. The United States Congress was commissioning and printing Bibles to be given to all the people, because they knew that’s what would produce the character necessary to make America blossom. And flourish and thrive. Benjamin Franklin. Thomas Jefferson. Understood that without Christianity, you have no basis for a free and just nation. And that’s why they promoted the principles of Christianity, even if they were not themselves, personal genuine followers of Jesus Christ.”

Kirk [to David]: “These arguments that we’re hearing that all of these – you know, Christianity was not a significant part of their lives. If anything, they were deists. – They’re just simply… Their arguments are based on ignorance. Or..”

David: “Or deliberate.”

Kirk: “Or deliberate…”

David: “misrepresenting…”

Kirk: “… and denying it.”

David: “Denying. Yeah anybody who knows history, knows that it’s a deliberate attempt. Now I believe that there is a lot of people who repeat this ignorantly. Because they simply teach what they were taught in school.”

Kirk: “right.”

David: “They got this in school. But there was a generation that absolutely got this wrong. No question about it. And they did it deliberately.”

[scene skips out of that conversation, to David showing Kirk another book]

David: “See this is a book done by two professors. Cramnick and Moore. [book titled: “The Godless Constitution”]. These two were professors. It’s a book called the “Godless Constitution”. These guys – they assert that the founding fathers were all atheists, agnostics and deists, and that’s why they [founding fathers] gave us a godless document. Because they themselves were “godless”. So they [two authors] got through and lay out. Now, I find this used as a textbook in universities all over the country. Now, they go through and lay out their whole case. And I mean you see the letters we just pulled and documents that we’ve got everywhere around here. And you go – what’s the documentation for this thing that none of the founders believed in God? That they had a secular government – a godless constitution? And so you look at the footnotes.”

Kirk: “Bibliography.”

David: “Yeah, you go to the Bibliography in the back. And you get back here to the end. And it talks about – a note on sources. Now we’re looking at footnote sources here. This is going to be cool. And when you get here, look what these two professors say. ‘We have dispensed with the usual scholarly apparatus of footnotes…’ We’re not documenting a single thing. Everybody trust us – we’re PhDs. We’re telling you all of these guys are atheists, agnostics… Do you think there’s any kid that’s going to an university in America today who could write a thesis paper and not footnote it? And have a professor not tear their head off? And yet we have two professors saying: oh no, it’s a godless constitution – they’re all godless, but we don’t have to footnote anything. We’ve dispensed with that usual stuff, because everybody knows they’re godless. This is pure revisionism. This is the kind of stuff that’s deliberate. You’ve got to work really hard and the reason they couldn’t document it is that you’re not going to find original documents like that. You find maybe two or three documents out of a hundred thousand maybe. That’s the best they can come up with. And that’s just the – again, exception not the rule. And that’s the way we teach history today. We say well the founders were all slave owners because Jefferson owns slaves. We yeah, that’s one of the 56 signers of deck. How about the 70% of the signers of the deck that were abolitionists and formed the first abolition societies? Well the founders we all atheists, agnostics and deists cause Jefferson and Franklin. Well how about the other 54? How about the fact that of the 56 signers of the Declaration, 29 of those guys held seminary degrees. More than half of the signers went to seminary? We never talk about that. And that’s what these guys do. They may find a piece or two – they don’t even footnote it. But they might find a piece or two to prove their case. Every piece they find, we can find 50, 70, 100, 200 exactly the opposite. But this is what kids get in college now.”

Kirk: “Wow. I mean. [sighs]”

Kirk [to us]: “These documents that I held in my hands prove to me that our founding fathers did not lose that deep faith in God. They didn’t ditch the strategy of the pilgrims. In fact, they were following it. Congress was printing Bibles. And they were paying to send them into homes and churches and schools.” [section ended at minute marker – 1:09:11]

[Review notes: Mr. Barton is a clever liar – and he is a revisionist. He doesn’t source and prove a lot of things he says and he skips over lots of history. But he gets all angry when people contradict his “scholarship”. I have read some of his materials – even his book on the supposed “lack of” freemasonry among the founding fathers and how it caused them to use double-meanings etc. Mr. Barton just mixes truth with lies all throughout that book. Look for a picture of George Washington with a mason apron on – you’ll find it. Look for his letter expounding the “great” qualities of masonry – you’ll find it. Look for Thomas Jefferson’s razor-cut Bible where he removed most of the gospels to just get Jesus to say what he wanted. Look into Benjamin Franklin’s strong agnosticism, even satanic dabbling. Look into the several key individuals who partnered with the Rothschilds (English banking dynasty) to control the dynasty while pretending to be “representing” the rights of the colonies. Look at the masonic involvement of Patrick Henry – who indeed did hold the title of “pastor”, but was a part of things he should not have done. Look into the freemasonry involvement in “causing” the Revolutionary war. The details of masonry run deep – and you *can* find it, despite Mr. Barton pretending it almost didn’t exist. No, with the founding documents, there was a verbal war between two factions: deists/masons and honest followers of Christ (to some extent). They came to agreement, but the masons snuck more into the founding documents than is often reviewed – that’s why the arguments about the people not accepting them continued for another 1 to 2 years. ~ Anyway, enough said. Mr. Barton is indeed a revisionist – he rewrites history all the time as well as covering up very important details that help with an honest history – not forced with either of the “two sides”. Do not take him as an expert, because the only thing his an “expert” on is lying. He has some facts and he has some lies. Double-check him every time.]

 

Proof that David Barton was lying about the “no footnotes” comments. You can verify this yourself. If you look at each of those pictures, you will find footnotes and sources they quote – just not exact page number and paragraphs and pictures. David Barton used a straw-man argument to pretend he’s the expert, and anyone that suggests differently is either confused – or deliberately lying. Here’s proof, so you can come to your own conclusion.
> https://www.amazon.com/Godless-Constitution-Against-Religious-Correctness/dp/0393039617/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1500950711&sr=8-2&keywords=the+godless+constitution

 

Direct screenshots of the rest of the last 3 pages that Mr. Barton only read 2 or 3 sentences of.

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